Dear u/Daddy_Spez,

For reasons unknown, my computer has been refusing to install any Windows OS updates for many, many months now. Whenever I try to install the updates, it fully downloads and installs the update, and at the end of the process, bounces back with this message:

There were some problems installing updates, but we’ll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x800f081f)

Some of the errors I encountered in this previous post may have something to do with this one. The TL:DR is that my system had defective RAM and possible OS file degradation as a result: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/14hgp4z/im_getting_lots_of_bsods_due_to_either_drivers_or/

However, I ran DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth and sfc /scannow, and found no problems. I’ve tried some basic troubleshooting techniques for this problem I found on Google, and came up dry.

I also have some drivers out-of-date which I haven’t been able to update, that may have something to do with this problem. Specifically, my AMD SMBus Driver, my MarVell AQtion 10GBit Network Adapter, and my RZ616 Wi-Fi 6E 160MHz driver.

Additionally, just in case this may have something to do with something, my RAM and CPU are both overclocked. Just your standard PBO and EXPO, nothing risky. At least, that’s how I feel about it.

Here’s my computer’s specs:

Motherboard : MSI MEG X670E ACE (Wi-Fi 6E)

CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 7900X

CPU Cooler : Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB (Black)

Case Fans : DEEPCOOL RF 120 RGB Case Fan x 1, Corsair ML140 PRO x2

RAM : G.Skill TridentZ5 Neo RGB 32GB DDR5-6000 (AMD EXPO, 2X16GB)

GPU : MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X

Boot Drive : SK Hynix Platinum P41 (2TB)

SSD 1 : Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus (8TB)

SSD 2 : WD Black SN850X (4TB)

HDD : Seagate IronWolf Pro (18TB)

PSU : Corsair AX1600i (1600W)

Case : Fractal Design Torrent Compact RGB (Black) 

Operating System : Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

  • DoctorKomodo@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    So, did you actually determine if you had defective RAM? I.e. by running memtest86 on them.

    Assuming your RAM do have a clean bill of health now, the simplest option may frankly be to just reinstall Windows rather than keep on struggling with trying to update it.

      • hunterkll@alien.topBEnglish
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        1 year ago

        And will potentially give you app compatibility hell.

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        I’ve had to move so many organizations off through reimage projects because they thought that and applications dropped support for previous releases because of using newer services/APIs.

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        Nevermind games.

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        LTSC is the replacement for emebdded/Industry pro. And tooled as such.

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        At this point i’d reinstall with W11 for game and hardware support (and security), but the current ‘regular’ Win10 build is essentially LTSC … it’s the last feature update, and past few years it hasn’t had a core OS update.

        • erevos33@alien.topBEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Win 10 IoT 2021 user here, playing games and running all programs fine, no issues to be had. Private user. So…yeah…

          • hunterkll@alien.topBEnglish
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            1 year ago

            Half my software won’t even work on Win10 anymore (older versions will), and a lot of the code i’m developing requires newer APIs and features (and services!) not in LTSC builds.

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            If you’re using the LTSC IOT version, that’s binary identical to mainline IOT. Expect things like adobe applications to stop working, and for a while the win10 versions of various games required newer releases than LTSC Was… and now some are W11 only. Staying on LTSC is a fool’s game in the end, while things might work “right now” … I can’t even install my headset or keyboard control software on LTSC. Running LTSC is like running embedded as your main system… because that’s what it’s designed/tooled for. Don’t even think of newer MS office support, etc…

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            If you’re using normal IOT Enterprise, then everything will “just work” since it’s identical to normal windows 10 enterprise.

        • A_Squeezed_Can@alien.topOPBEnglish
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          1 year ago

          I’d be willing to “upgrade” to W11 as an absolute last LAST resort. Perhaps I’d sooner do that than reinstall W10, but I’m very, VERY much not a fan of opening myself up to that god-awful piece of spyware. If there’s any way I can make it light on resources and private without sacrificing features or ease-of-use, or modify it to be more in line with the Windows 7/Windows 10 experience I’m used to, I might consider it.

          • what_dat_ninja@alien.topBEnglish
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            1 year ago

            If spyware is your concern - from a security standpoint you’re going to be much better off with a patched Windows 11 than an unpatched Windows 10.

          • hunterkll@alien.topBEnglish
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            1 year ago

            Perhaps I’d sooner do that than reinstall W10, but I’m very, VERY much not a fan of opening myself up to that god-awful piece of spyware.

            F100 government contractor here, working high up on the systems mangement/deployment side. It’s *no* different than 10 in which data is transmitted, and that’s publicly documented. Our infosec teams went and reversed/intercepted a lot too to verify this.

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            W11 is a great technical upgrade under the hood. And the “spyware” is the same as W10 and W7’s telemetry (admittingly, W7’s was added later).

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            That being said, on the personal side, from a game/stability perspective, i’ve seen some higher framerates - it even made one game (tom clancy ghost recon wildlands) playable on my system at 4K HDR while under W10 it wasn’t. I went to 11 on the first insider builds and was extremely happy with that. Sure, the start menu changes, but … especially on the latest versions, all the early 11 complaints are gone.

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            But light on resources and privilege? Even on 2GB ram machines i’ve noticed no difference from 10. Mind you - 2017+ machines.

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            Just run 11 with ‘security only’ or ‘basic’ telemetry set via local GPO.

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            Don’t run ‘debloating’ scripts - these really can and do break things, even if you don’t see it for a year or two. Right click and uninstall things you don’t want. Read the technet documentation (well, learn.microsoft.com now) to properly tweak/manage things using the already provided interfaces instead of 3rd party hacks

    • A_Squeezed_Can@alien.topOPBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I did. Memtest86 confirmed it. Thousands of errors.

      I really don’t want to deal with reinstalling Windows again, though. That was an absolute ordeal before, and I’d sooner eat the lack of security than do that again. I don’t have any decent way to back up all my configuration for all of my programs, even if I keep my files, and some of that is very specific and a major pain in the ass to get right all over again.

      Besides, if there is some corruption, that may extend to my files, which could mean that an OS reinstall is fruitless as a solution, because once I restore my files, whatever’s bugging my OS out will return with my files. Are there any non-nuclear options for troubleshooting I could try?