So I was looking over the recent merges to llama.cpp’s server and saw that they’d more or less brought it in line with Open AI-style APIs – natively – obviating the need for e.g. api_like_OAI.py, or one of the bindings/wrappers like llama-cpp-python (+ooba), koboldcpp, etc. (not that those and others don’t provide great/useful platforms for a wide variety of local LLM shenanigans).

As of a couple days ago (can’t find the exact merge/build), it seems as if they’ve implemented – essentially – the old ‘simple-proxy-for-tavern’ functionality (for lack of a better way to describe it) but *natively*.

As in, you can connect SillyTavern (and numerous other clients, notably hugging face chat-ui — *with local web search*) without a layer of python in between. Or, I guess, you’re trading the python layer for a pile of node (typically) but just above bare metal (if we consider compiled cpp to be ‘bare metal’ in 2023 ;).

Anyway, it’s *fast* — or at least not apparently any slower than it needs to be? Similar pp and generation times to main and the server’s own skeletal js ui in the front-ends I’ve tried.

It seems like ggerganov and co. are getting serious about the server side of llama.cpp, perhaps even over/above ‘main’ or the notion of a pure lib/api. You love to see it. apache/httpd vibes 😈

Couple links:

https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/pull/4198

https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/issues/4216

But seriously just try it! /models, /v1, /completion are all there now as native endpoints (compiled in C++ with all the gpu features + other goodies). Boo-ya!

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    1 year ago

    huge fan of server.cpp too! I actually embed a universal binary (created with lipo) in my macOS app (FreeChat) and use it as an LLM backend running on localhost. Seeing how quickly it improves makes me very happy about this architecture choice.

    I just saw the improvements issue today. Pretty excited about the possibility of getting chat template functionality since currently all of that complexity has to live in my client.

    Also, TIL about the batching stuff. I’m going to try getting multiple responses using that.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not looking so great that they actually support the feature, but would rather hard code templates into the cpp, ignoring what the model is define with it it doesn’t match.

      I made my case for it, but there seems to be resistance to doing it at all… there may be options to load a python jinja script from cpp if the dependencies exists, and fall back to the hard coded impl if not, but people seem very resistant to do anything of the sort. And the cpp jinja port seems to be too heavy weight for their tastes…