• greevous00@alien.topB
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    Seems to me that Ilya Sutskever must be some kind of nut job idealist / egoist. I’m tempted to say you can take the data scientist out of Russia, but you can’t take the Russian out of the data scientist. This plays like a Soviet era coup – sudden, poorly thought out, meat fisted, and unlikely to make anything better.

    Altman and Brockman are probably going to start their own company, (funded by Microsoft?), poach all of Open AI’s good people, and Open AI is going to go the way of the dodo… or maybe Ilya will have enough money to keep a little clown car / research lab company running or something, but nothing of any consequence is ever going to come out of Open AI ever again. I’d bet a paycheck on it.

    The documented sequence of events makes the board (and Ilya in particular) look colossally stupid. Never ceases to amaze me how some very smart people can be so completely clueless from an interpersonal dynamics perspective. Zero EQ. If they were unhappy with Altman there was a right way to handle this, and a million wrong ways. It seems like they asked ChatGPT to give them the absolute worst possible wrong way, and then asked it to write the blog post announcing it.

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      Seems to me that Ilya Sutskever must be some kind of nut job idealist / egoist.

      Funny you say this, since the reason they fired Altman were moves by Altman that were not in the interest of OpenAI, but rather ego moves that threaten the security of the AGI development.

      You can stick your racist and stereotypical comments about a person being originally from Russia in your back by the way. The decision came from the whole board and Ilya is Canadian, raised also in Israel.

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        That’s nonsensical. The reason he was fired was a power struggle between Ilya and Sam. Period. They have different visions for how to achieve AGI, and Ilya is an idealist who wants to try to do it with a small research organization. He has no clue how much capital it takes to achieve what they’re trying to do.

        With regard to the rest, Russia isn’t a race, Ilya was born there, and the real decision came from Ilya. Everybody knows this. If Altman comes back, Ilya will be out. What does that tell you?

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          He has no clue how much capital it takes to achieve what they’re trying to do.

          Jesus, maybe you can enlighten him. Or maybe you can realize that money isn’t any issue with OpenAI at the moment. Even Altman said this months ago. It’s not about money, it’s about how to approach it. And OpenAI’s vision is not that of a MS capitalist approach in the long term. Even though they partnered with a capitalist company. But under certain conditions.

          With regard to the rest, Russia isn’t a race, Ilya was born there, …

          Fun fact: There are no human races to begin with (but that’s what Racist theories were all about). Just the U.S. somehow uses this term (and some other country in the world I forgot about). “Racism” refers to discrimination based on ethnicity, which also includes things like a common nation of origin. So you made a racist statement.

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            money isn’t any issue with OpenAI at the moment.

            The instant this little stunt was pulled, money became a problem. You see, a startup is funded by two streams of capital: revenues, and venture capital. Revenues are, like all startups, insufficient to fund the company, so that leaves VCs. Guess who is flipping the hell out right now trying to force Altman back? That’s right, the venture capitalists. If they don’t get their way, they will pull their capital, and your hero will have precisely enough capital necessary to fund the operations of a hotdog stand.

            “Racism” refers to discrimination based on ethnicity

            True, but nation of origin dies not in fact predict ethnicity. You know how I know this? I’ll tell you my nation of origin: USA. Now tell me my ethnicity. You can’t. What I said was perhaps a stereotype (a humorous one that gets used in any situation where someone acts like their stereotypical origin, you see it is what’s known as an idiom) of people from Russia, but it is not racist. I don’t even know Ilya’s ethnicity.